Suit & Tie Guy ([info]suitandtieguy) wrote,
@ 2009-06-30 06:49:00
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today's lesson: you have too much freedom and pay too little tax
hey don't you think it's awesome our president banned clove cigarettes last week (but made the US safe for those menthols he likes) and is going to tackle the fireplace epidemic next week, while at the same time Iran piles the bodies of protesters into dump trucks to haul them off?

"My call to every senator, as well as to every American, is this," Barry said. "We cannot be afraid of the future. And we must not be prisoners of the past. Don't believe the misinformation out there that suggests there is somehow a contradiction between investing in clean energy and economic growth."

our smoker-in-chief is full of shit. there is already plenty of economic incentive to invest in clean energy. we don't need higher taxes to do so. nor do we need an energy audit to find out how efficient our homes are and wether we posses "carbon emitters" to see what drastic changes need to be made to property before it changes hands.

more taxes will not change this planet's climate. if you drink the global warming kool-aid then you know that we're on an irreversible road to devastation, if you are completely skeptical you don't care because its irrelevant, and if you're in between it only makes sense if you have your head buried in the sand and don't see all the effort in the past 10 years put towards non-fossil-fuel-based energy, which most people can tell is obviously necessary without the government pissing them off in an effort to remind them it is.


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[info]foodforthemoon
2009-06-30 01:13 pm UTC (link)
The President doesn't write legislation. Altria backed this legislation but only with the menthol exception. It is STILL the first time the FDA will be able to regulate tobacco products, which is a good thing. This is called 'compromise', and there are many useful definitions of it online.

Iran is a sovereign nation, and I find it refreshing that the administration hasn't engaged in a stinky blast of cowboy tripe in response, aren't you?

If there is 'plenty' of economic incentive, then where are the large successful clean energy based corporations? Define in broad terms the scope of this 'plenty'.

Taxes don't change climate. Taxes can impact behaviors. People won't tell something is 'obviously necessary' until it hits their wallet.

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[info]squidb0i
2009-06-30 02:42 pm UTC (link)
I was going to respond along these lines, but you've done all the heavy lifting. =]

I'd like to add: show me the new taxes, Suit.

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[info]suitandtieguy
2009-07-01 11:35 am UTC (link)
i'll work on the taxes citation.

btw, you put your money where your mouth is. i hope you understand i appreciate that even though i saw that you posted a comment to this and immediately thought "oh great he democrats ready my LJ entry."

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[info]squidb0i
2009-07-01 02:19 pm UTC (link)
=]

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[info]suitandtieguy
2009-07-01 11:32 am UTC (link)
the president doesn't write legislation, but he signs off on it. i know very well that the tobacco bill has been around in congress since before our president was elected to it. as was the menthol exception.

however, he does _sign_off_ on it. just like Bush is responsible for the USA PATRIOT act and everything else he signed. if something is shit, you don't need to sign it. this country has enough laws as it is, we don't need more recreational lawmaking.

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GOD DAMN UNICODE ERRORS
[info]suitandtieguy
2009-07-01 11:32 am UTC (link)
as far as "plenty" goes here in illinois i seem to be surrounded by windfarms (3 within an hours' radius that i can immediately name, one within 10 miles) and nuclear plants. one of my customers has a large solar farm on his property, and one of my best friends is going to be going the same route within the next 2 years. also the first person who responded to your comment is a very proactive person when it comes to this and i know for a fact his box truck runs on biodiesel.

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Re: GOD DAMN UNICODE ERRORS
[info]suitandtieguy
2009-07-01 11:34 am UTC (link)
i typed something here about iran BUT THE GOD DAMN RUSKIE MAFIA WOULDN'T LET ME POST IT

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Re: GOD DAMN UNICODE ERRORS
[info]squidb0i
2009-07-01 02:20 pm UTC (link)
Yeah I farking hate that. Even converting to plaintext doesnt work. WTF.

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everyone wants to be roman and the roman wanted to be greek
[info]pasulel
2009-06-30 05:02 pm UTC (link)
the myth of eternal return, or the hope for some golden age gone by that will never come again. i think i see things differently so i don't think i have any place arguing taxes or politics. does that make sense? history repeats itself in a way, facts build up but thinking is discouraged, and everything is possible or nothing is known. i prefer the unknown which most people fear but is the only place i find hope.
history repeats itself in that no one ever stays on top, it is a pinnacle of a very acute angle. history repeats itself in that it is almost predictable. history is repeats itself following almost following what Aquinas would call natural law. forget fossil fuels, forget taxes, forget politics, to me the means and method are inconsequential. history would seem to point in the direction of impending catastrophe or something dynamic happening. consider standards of living. america is worried about cigarettes and cars whereas other countries citizens worry about not dying. i've heard that starvation is the worst way to die. balance, equilibrium, like an inflated balloon, what if it were america's time to pass? i'd let it go, i'd still be me, the best i can do, the best i do. then again there is the unknown which dictates that history need not repeat itself. i hope for this but only in a far fetched way. mostly i hope things don't get too bad.
fact accumulate and by facts i mean what is 'known' though in truth nothing really is. everything is imagined. we perceive flaws in our perception therefore our perceptions must of necessity be flawed. things seem though, which is fine, but truth is unknown, and were we to know truth we would never know it as truth because such is the nature of truth. we can take what we see to seem and try to find what's real in reality which i think is good. math is imagined but it also is practical. perfect systems work only in imagination, but approximations made using such systems are useful. 'everything that now is was once only imagined'. what worries me is that people are so concerned with progress that it seems hurried and incomplete. our science seems to exceed our society. scientists increase knowledge for the sake of science but how does that help anyone. why aren't other artists increasing knowledge in their fields. i say artist because it once was all considered philosophy or love of wisdom and science was as valuable as sculpting. sculpting was a science, science was an art. by compartmentalizing the whole into these separate parts they've become disconnected, incompatible. still, i hope that science progresses to the point that it can fix all the things it's fucked up, which i think is entirely possible, unknowable.
all things as parts of a whole, and i consider the whole, which i think is what makes the way i approach things different. not better, please, for god's sake note, not better, different. perhaps worse. i don't know. i hope not. does any of this make sense?

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bread and circuses. chickens in lead pots.
[info]suitandtieguy
2009-07-01 11:36 am UTC (link)
we're all going to die in 2012. that's what this all means.

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Re: bread and circuses. chickens in lead pots.
[info]foodforthemoon
2009-07-01 09:57 pm UTC (link)
This is good news. I can spend my 401k on a kick-ass modular!

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